Coolness, I alwys watch all the DVD "extras" when I purchase a film on DVD. And on a lot of them, it shows what was done to Pre-visualize these kind of things. Often they refer to Mays or SoftImage, but what a great pat on the back Steve! It's nice to see that the "Big Guys" use software that we all can afford. But of course this was all done on Duel proccesors and hi end G4s (which are still a little pricey but within reach). I've seen poser used in so many proffessional ways, it make the mind reel. I'm glad that I've been a part of this since Poser "The pre-quel" ;-) James And I I'm getting LightWave for Xmas. Now to knit a stocking large enough for a duel G4 to fit in it. That'll never happen this year, but I can dream. I'll just have to up my memory on my G4 Cube and muddle through.