Looks like it's not just the Adult Forum screwing Poser people...MetaCreations is winding up for their final job on us all! Not that I'm unhappy to see their poor excuses for interfaces go down the drain, but "YOU STILL OWE ME A COMPLETE PROGRAM FOR MY MONEY!". Poser has so many bugs I have to reboot an average of 4 times a night...but, you ALL know this. Another company taken over by the Dork accounts without a clue... Kick ASS, Anton! Foxhollow