clarification on the above: "at a fraction of the rendering time (several hours) that goes with such lighting calculations"... in programs with rendering engines that have raytracing/global illumination the actual render of a complex image can take from anywhere between hours to days. poser generally renders an image in a minute or two (because of its simple renderer). with the GI lights, it might take double that time because of all the shadow maps it has to render. i dont want people getting confused about my above post and thinking its going to take hours to render an image with these :) i think the longest render ive done in poser (and this was with 5 characters, a detailed backdrop, dozens of props, high-res textures, complex reflection mapping and 30 omni lights) took under 20 minutes at 4000x4000x300dpi.