yeah that line is kicking me right now Peejay! :> Can't seem to get it just right, on the 3rd try now. Not sure if it's the way I'm grouping it or the way I'm doing the skeleton/boneing. But, I'm getting closer, I think! 2nd time making something poseable, 1st was the pocket knife in the freestuff area, which was easy 'cause it only had 3 parts! Thanks for the comments all! TMG