No insinuations percieved, Wolfie! Personally, I'm just plugging two great programmers who actually don't need my plugging, as their tools speak for themselves. The non-pro version of UVmapper IS free, and you're right, there's plenty of freeware apps in freestuff. It's just that really good apps often seem to take really good time to do ;o) And BTW, the grouping tool works fine, if you "outflank" its weaknesses - I humbly invite you to have a look at http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=347959