Curious Labs... Nosey Retreivers? Oh well, I paid, I had a clear conscious. Tho, I've had more tech support on this forum than from either MC or CL, as far as being a registered user goes. So what is that worth? P4 is old, probably not selling many new copies. CL is a bizness, so why not try to wring P4 a little drier? If P5 is COMING SOON then maybe CL will offer a much better upgrade price to users registered before the amnesty date than for a new full price copy. That would be polite and good biz. Amnesty for pirates...? Foregiveness is divine...