True. Corel does get away with it. They all do but the reason is that nobody ever takes them to task for thier practices. All I was pointing out is that there are laws they have to follow and if enough stink was raised maybe the people in power (politicians?) might think about including the necessary legislations to ensure they followed the laws (as in monetary penalties for violation) along with whatever formula they come up with (and they will) to tax us to death on the internet. As long as no complaints are raised they continue on thier merry way impervious to the laws and the rights of the individual. Other companies have eventually been brought to task for thier actions but only after numerous complaints were lodged and could no longer be ignored. The number of people who spent thier hard earned money on these programs deserve more than the total indifference that metacreations has shown lately to thier customers. This is not a company that was going broke or showing consistent losses. They have 38 to 40 million dollars cash in reserve for crying out loud. That money had to partly come from the programs they are dumping. What this shows is that metacreations in the recent hoopla of both Bryce 4 and poser 4 sucked us all down the garden path and now don't want to turn the soil because it s too much effort. They probably knew when they released those programs that they were going to dump them but needed to squeeze every last nickel out of us, the consumer, to set up this move. And if so THAT is where they broke the law because they would have acted in a deceitful manner to gain a profit by devious means (yes, thats how part of the law reads). Anyway, I was just pointing out that there are laws to protect people from this type of business practice but a person (or group of people) have to institute an action against the company suspected of these type of practices.