Ron, Nope! This is on a HP omnibook 900b laptop with all the latest drivers, (via the option to logon to MS during the install to update) and all three times were "clean" installs. We also do this for a living, so it's not unheard of that we might know what we're doing :P I've got all the latest drivers for every OS I've used, (more of a problem with Linux/UNIX, where you have to compile the stuff yourself, but not insurmountable :) I think that by and large Xp works well, especially given the wide range of flaky crap it has to work with, it's just a shame they couldn't get it right in in 1995, but I guess they needed/wanted to see both what thier customers wanted and what the market would bare before they stepped up to the plate with thier "good stuff" right? :) later jb