Really interesting... 1. Just wish legal customers will have such a good opportunity to updgrade from Poser4 to 5... I understand what you are doing but at the same time, it sounds really disturbing... won't it be better for people to have an illegal copy of Poser 4 now and wait for your next Amnesty Program to get Poser 5 ? :) 2. I live in Europe, and bought my legal copy of Poser4 for $ 310 ! So, I would have got it for half the price if I got an illegal copy ? Really wish we'll get a great upgrade offer ( "we" means people who always got a legal copy ) 3. I can understand you need money, but why don't you make things people are REALLY waiting for : hair plugins, and such things ? I don't think a lot of persons are waiting for RT avatars... but a software dedicated to easily make conforming clothing would be welcomed... I personnaly think you should focus on Poser because an important community already exists... joelegecko