Jack, I can sympathize to a certain degree with the feelings you and others share. But I don't believe this amnesty rewards thieves. If I have a pirated version of Poser 4 that has run just fine for me why on earth would I buy a copy even at a discount? After all, I've already decided it is okay to be a thief. A paper manual isn't worth that much to me and if I recall correctly the CD has a pdf manual anyhow. But if I am toying with the idea of using a pirated version this amnesty might keep me honest. If I've been using one of the magazine freebies because I can't afford to upgrade, well now maybe I can. Ultimately this rewards honesty, not dishonesty. As for your car analogy, it is not quite the same thing. If all your expenses as a dealer were development costs and the actual physical car cost you relatively little you might well be tempted to offer it half price in lieu of getting nothing at all. Face it. Software by its very nature is easily and cheaply reproducible so is not the same as other real world products. If I give you my car I lose this item. That's a built in rule of life. But I can give you a copy of my Poser and not lose a damn thing in physical terms. The software industry really needs a new sales model because the old rules no longer apply and they are not enforceable anyway. Maybe things like CL's amnesty program are the first tentative steps towards discovering that new approach. As for me I am not going to be bitter about this. I don't have the time or inclination. Old age just claimed a cat that has been one of the joys of my life for over 18 years. That is a thing worthy of my emotion. This amnesty...? Phttt! - Another Jack