April, No point in spending my time working on something if it'll never be used. (shrug) Well I won't worry about ShoV until I get bored then. :) I'll ask again on fri night and over at the commune, to get a better exposure rate. I always ask regarding possible freestuff projects - and occaisionally get myself into trouble. Like right now I'm making 24 pairs of textures for Anton's adventurers outfit. Many of them from responses to a query. Have 4 started already. I'm thinking Jan or Feb as a tentative release date - but who knows. I like to flood rather than release in dribs and drabs :) I think after these I'll make some more characters - goodness knows I never expected my Brendan to be so popular. :) Glad yoyu appreciate the walls - I certainly appreciate your rempping. (my blue alien on a remapped-to-mike p4male with Travelers alien morphs. Wheee!) Lyrra