Each year, the schools churn out thousands of would-be Micro-angelos into a trade where only the best survive, and I'm certain the number of people using Poser in 'extended-evaluation' mode is an immense loss of revenue. Given the costs of litigation and the reality of what you can recover from people for whom necessities are a challenge, I think Curious is doing the best it can. I hope this year-end clearance works so CL can not only pay the help, but improve and fix the issues that make Poser so maddeningly slow for professionals that live or die by output. gf@silcom.com