laughing hard... and pointing down to my previous post!!!! :) OK here is where I have learned ( A LOT) How to make a posable ginger bread man: http://www.jabberdoggy.com/Tutorials/Gingerbread/GBMatrix.html NOTE: If you're trying to conform a sweather or an upper body... make SURE you name the parts correctly it's lForeArm and rForeArm (NOT rForearm/lForearm as it says in the tutorial.... That cost me some gray hairs, - and some others that I pulled out.... read previous posts) Nerd had a wonderful conforming tutorial. Do a search here, - and make SURE you read through his conforming boots tutorial. then there is our very own BryceTech. :) He has a http:www.posertech.com the site isn't fully operational yet, - but the stuff that you'll need is mostly there. Then, - I'm the dummy person to ask. lol I'm about 2 weeks ahead of you... and I'm making my own mistakes as fast as I can! Good luck! Britt