Eve poses better than P4 and takes Vicky poses well although some P4F poses cause Eve to double over more than planned. She is more GC than other models available. She has trouble wearing P4F clothes, particularly around the hips (quite different geometry) but I have found that a lot of Vicky clothes do work well. There is a set of Eve clothing conversions of P4F clothing, but sometimes they dont work well. Principal advantage I find is that the face is identical so I can make two versions of the same "face" (Eve and P4F) and use the P4 in a clothed series of images (at considerably reduced cost in file size) and use the Eve variant when less clothes is required. Recent morphs available for the P4F face allow a vast improvement on facial types that one can make. The qualitative difference between a P4F face now and Vicky's is not as big as when Vicky first came out. Eve's file size, clothed, is about half way in size between a P4 and a Vicky similiarly clothed. It's difficult to have more than three Millenium based characters on systems with less than 1GB mhz and 246mb memory.

Gordon