Outstanding everyone, if there ever is an answer to a Carrara riddle it is always here. Cutcopypaste thanks for the start. Tkane18 I used you technique on the project and it is working just fine. Thanks for the additional image Mark. And yes that is exactly the type of image I am looking for. Is that one spline? I cannot see the seams where they connect at the corners. Is it difficult to bow out the edges? As promised good karma is now being sent out to all. happy holidays memaci