Hi all, Thats exactly what I was using the castle for Ghostofmacbeth, During the render I thought maybe a lighthouse on his right ankle to show scale, the other version of this image, http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=107&Form.ShowMessage=46509 did'nt have anything at all to suggest scale, I also agree with the trees and grassy texture on the giant too. I worked long and hard on that particular texture. I was prepared for the "get rid of the castle" replies Autoloader, and I will, If you take a look at the first version(link above)you see a drastic change from the giants texture which was my main concern, the castle was really just an after thought to suggest scale. any other suggestions about how to achieve that would be welcomed, If I need to do it at all. Now that you mention it TracyAnn , I prolly should drop the specularity down a bit on the terrains. Oh By the way The giant was in fact done in Poser 3.1 I'm waiting to start hearing about a patch for Poser 4 before purchasing it. Thank you all for the great replies an suggestions. Hawkfyr http://www.geocities.com/hawkfyr/index.html

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