This is all such a load of crap. 'Rosity is getting a rep as a nasty place to hang out, and this is the kind of stuff that bears it out. I've been a member here for a while but I haven't/don't speak out much on the forums and I've just gotten into using the chat functions, mainly because I didn't feel I had much to contribute. However, I have GREATLY appreciated the freestuff area(s), and do so even more now that things are tight in my area. I've been working on textures and other things to post in the Freestuff area, but it will probably mean linking to my site because it's hard to find a free site that allows direct download linking anymore. People have used and abused such sites to the extent that it's no longer feasible. Look at what happened to some of the bigger freestuff sites. Most have had to go to a paid membership or restricting their access. A lot of those sites that make you dig around or require logins do it because they have to. And it's usually worth it because you can find other goodies while you're looking. Don't wanna mess with it? Then don't. NO ONE is asking you to log in or dig around. When they post to Freestuff, contributors are saying, "Hey, if you need/want this, I've got it and you can have it." If they have the money to throw away on bandwidth for a direct link, cool. But don't bust anyone's chops because they aren't rich or don't have access to free server space and bandwidth. I'm watching what happens here closely because while I want to give back to the community, I can't afford to spend money on it. If that means I have to direct you to my site for the download and 'Rosity is giving people problems about it, I'll have to post elsewhere, which will suck. 'Rosity was where I found all of you guys and got started on the 3D stuff. I'd hate not being able to share with you all because someone can't figure out why free has a lot of different meanings. In fact, by the definitions given above, ronstuff, no one 'giving stuff away free" could put limitations on it, or copyright it, or anything else. Above all, remember that people are watching what we say and do. It influences the community we play in, so play nice, everyone. Please.