Incidently, if anybody is intrested, here is what is going on: Vickie II has a "soften hip" morph that is set to 1 by default. There is also a "pbm soften hip" in the buttocks and a soften hip in the abdomen, both of these appear to be off, however, they are both run by MCM (morph controling morph!) from the hip, thus both are actually at 1 also. This is sort of a pain, methinks.