thank you for the advice. I would like to state that I am really appreciative of the free stuff offerings. A lot of time I download things that I plan to use for an image. In this way I have a large library of objects that allow me to make many different images that I could not have done before. I think that the fact that there are a number of downloads is a compliment to the freestuff artist even if the items do not immediately show up. One reason is that as a beginner I downloaded objects that I am only now using after I am more experienced. It took me a while to figure out objaction mover for one, and how to import objects.