Thanks, Moonbow... sorry, yes, you'd need Vicki (either 1 or 2.) I tried doing an elf with the default Poser guy, but it just wouldn't come out right. April says, "by the way, hugo weaving does have that puffy upper eyelid look that contributes to the blue eyeshadow rumour. saw him in Priscilla Queen of the Desert? can't get that image outta my head. ;)" I think the first movie I ever saw Hugo Weaving in was Proof. But I have to admit that when I saw him on the Lord of the Rings site, my first reaction was "Holy crap! Agent Smith from "The Matrix" is Elrond!" :-> Gwyneth Paltrow as Galadriel screams No joke. I scared myself with that one.