CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALM down ;o) and do this : o Order Phil's CD o If you've got lotsa money, order TrueSpace ($299 from www.caligari.com) o If you don't, d/l a free copy of Amapi 4.15 o Go to the Amapi 3D Forum here on R'osity o Search for "exercises" (will teach you the tools), "project" (will walk you through creating a jacket, and "conforming" (will walk you through making a conforming item of the jacket) o Go to http://webpages.charter.net/chawkins2/ - with the warm-ups done w/ Amapi, you'll get the full benefit of chawkins' great tute ...and when you return, the PhilC CD will probably be in your mailbox, and all your frustrations will be over. And remember : It ain't paranoia when you KNOW everyone's conspiring against you ;o)