Cheryle, as promised, I'm back (from Mordor actually, just saw Lord of The Ring!) to let you know I'm posting the final rendering - took three actually as it kept choking my poor little puter*lol* I just saw there is actually a "Holiday Gallery" guess that's where I'll upload it to. Hope ya like it, think I learned a little on this one - sure wish I had better PhotoShop skills thou... I also have it posted in two diffent sizes with sound and animated falling snow at my web site if your browser accepts javascript: http://www.smyle.net/~igohigh/walls.html Happy Holiday All!!