Well... if you say so I guess it must be true for you. Certainly it is not as pretty as the WOW series of books but page for page I have seen few books on any program that pack as much tutorial and technique information as the Real World Bryce books. I have a number of the WOW books. They're not bad but RWB makes them look like light weights. Try reading her superb exposition on the DTE amongst other things. The reference manual is the book that came packed with the program. Susan's books go well beyond that. In fact, it has more than twice as many pages as the Bryce manual and often explains how Bryce really works instead of the way it's supposed to work. Dig through the old posts to see what other people think of her books. The last one was over a year late and people were on the verge of having heart attacks. There was almost a communal orgasm when it was finally published. But you're entitled to your opinion and there is little point to pursuing this. Dude?