Bloodsong, Yep, flat iris, The cornea is raised a little bit, just like a real eye. the "lense" is a hole in the iris showing through to the inside of the eye. The "retina" is dark red. The normals on the back of the eye face in. The only real glitch is that the "eye socket" on the P4 head are very shallow. Use the grouping tool to select them, assign them a material then set that material to be completely transparent. Where are you eyes? Are they cooler than mine?