Har har! In line with what sturkwurk added, number 1 does fit my online comic much more than number 2. Also I kinda like number 1 cuz I MADE it. If I was super kewl I could make a butt plate that fits /sigh. Thanks for the feedback peepers ! So far score looks like (not including my vote) 1 with 3 and 2 with 3. So its 50/50!