okay, i'll take the bait!!! i'm not usually one to jump into these types of discussions, but i feel very inclined to speak up....i can't BELIEVE that you are complaining about PWFW!!! and what's almost funny is, you're comparing them to a warez site....do you frequent those or something?? i am a new member of PWFW and it is the best money i've spent on my poser hobby to date! who gives a crap about the site design...you're not paying for SITE DESIGN...you're paying for the high quality poser products! what is happening here at renderosity...people are complaining left and right about EVERYTHANGG!!!!! :o((((