I'm having trouble understanding why the site layout and asthetics are more important than the products offered. Steve and Rena work very hard and do a great job and the things that they offer on the membership site are far above many of the things you'll find anywhere. It's a very user freindly site and what's great is that they don't only offer brand new items on a regular basis, but the contents of all their CD's are there for download, so you can get any of the old things you used to be able to get on the old site. Poppi, don't let the lack of glitz and sparkle turn you away from a top-notch site. Actually, it's a very classy looking site. You've probably heard the term "Less is more." Well, they've done a very expert job putting the site together. Many sites I've been to are way too busy with page layout and have too many silly doo-dads like buttons, dividers, sound effects, Java, and Flash just to make the sites look fancy. Look for the offerings on the site, not the asthetics of the site itself. That's superficial. You're really cheating yourself by not subscribing. I love my membership and I intend to renew when it expires. Steve and Rena are great contributers of Poser stuff. Give them another chance, you won't regret it. Melanie