Yes it's fine to use the textures on the thumbnail image, and As far as I know, it's ok to use Bryce materials on your object as well. I was referring to the few textures that are posted here that are "as-is" off the Bryce CD. That is a License Agreement violation. They need to be altered a little to make them new texture creations, then they will be ok to post, but not in their current state. Ken