Removing the twist x,y,z lines for the shins might work. That allows parts to retain bending charateristics. But act almost like bending is turned off. I usually place a * or // in front of the first line and the next time I save to the library. The appropriet lines are automatically removed by Poser itself. You could also use spherical joints for the shins. But some people don't like to mess with those. -ScottA