Maybe Daz would listen if we got enough people to contact them about the dial order. I'll bet there's a lot of newbies out there just tearing their hair out. I am, and I'm not a newbie! I've been waiting patiently for Mike 2 for months. I use Poser for at least 4 - 5 hours a day. But I'm so pissed that I won't be doing that today. I'm losing interest...