Silver thanks!!!! right now i got a dual cpu system that i built a couple years ago (so now its a dinosaur) lol but i'm gonna go with another dual system ... thanks for the info im gonna check out that site in the am ... i gotta do it soon cause i'm gonnna lose my mind if i dont... right now while rendering stuff i might as well go out n have a birthday lol ....if i could get to 5 min/frame with some of the stuff i've put together i'd be doin cartwheels thanks to all for the info help n leads