Ok, so basic run down here, if my friend wants to give me the stuff, provided he gets rid of it, it's ok and I shouldn't worry about running stuff on both computers (once I get my own) because they're in the same house. I completely agree with having to buy multiple copies of software for the same household. It's expensive enough and with a wedding and baby frivelous expenses are just not in the works for quite a while. Wolf, I can only imagine how your kids friend felt when you gave him Bryce :) I've seen stuff that can be done with it, but don't want to download the demo cos I think I'll like it too much and want it LOL It's too bad more companies don't offer educational software, Microsoft does, surprisingly. I spent a whole 25 dollars on my Office 2000 copy (yes, it's complete just no manuals or boxes or stuff) and they have the Office XP for 35 if I buy it through school) But none of the cool stuff. Trey actually got Poser 4 from his college that cut back the number of labs it was in to save hard drive space. But even programs like Photoshop that he can get from school aren't that much of a deal. Just an idea, for graphic students, educational software is a great thing, they don't need the fancy stuff, but even better deals on the older versions would be nice.