Well, that was the most incredible, generous, understandable response of all time...hey, where are your tutorials (grin)? As to "Charred Vicky", I think you hit the nail on the head (I am nothing if not a user of cliches). One of tutorials I was following said it was being done on Pro Pack (but that it worked the same in P4) and went on to explain just what you did (about JPG/BUM), but, since I had purchased "Victoria 2", I just assumed you chose the "Victoria 2" character/figure from the DAZ library. I saw the "Victoria P4" and since I had read somewhere (I think) that "Victoria 2" could be modified to wear Posette clothing, I just thought the "Victoria P4" was just "Victoria 2" modified to be like Posette...NOT the version to use with Poser 4 (hence P4, I guess). There I go thinking again! Well, I now feel like I wasn't completely lost in an "endless render". You just took the time and explained it very well. And your paragraph on "characters" was helpful, too. Thank you very much !