I just wanted to confirm what Jack has said. The intention all along has been to be able to make money doing things that we enjoy and this forum is one of them. Indeed, there has not been any money made from this venture.. (yet)... to the point where in order to take care of my finances, I had to start doing 10-12 hours a day and withdraw from DSI (I was working on the interactive section which will hopefully one day be a reality) There was no help for it.. Got bills to pay. Most of my spare time from now on will have to be on my own projects. In it for the money? Yes, I would suppose most of Renderositys staff would Love to make money, but truthfully if the administrators Never get paid, will any of them leave? I doubt it. Why? Because it is the love of what we do that holds us here both administrators and members.