My opinion? If it weren't for the fact I was already up to my butt in projects on the web I'd give time to Jack and if there were ever an offer of pay I'd kick him right in the shins. I get paid for producing web pages and maintianing e-commerce sites. I do technical support for my company's network... this would be a lobour of, well if not love, then strong like. Advertisments are expected... bandwidth from a site like this must cost a bit more than couch-cusion money. And the time spent on it shows! I have put together ASP and heavy sites that are well behind in size of this place - I do NOT envy Jack, Legume, 3DSPrite, etc, etc... Who gives a rat's ass what other people say? If I did I'd still be in the Marines and not living the life I am now. People told me somthing couldn't be done, so I did it. People are bad mouthing Jack and company because Jack and the crew are NOT playing their games and they feel slighted - "Either be petty like us or we will get MOR petty!"