Well, not coming to the PFO until late last Spring, I don't know all the history and I also don't know all the behind the scenes things that happened, altho' I was able to draw a lot of inferences from things that happened-staff that disappeared, etc. I honestly don't know who Bob Covington is and suspect that a lot of other people don't know what's transpired. I also don't want to know much more than I know--recent events have been sufficient for me to decide where I'm more comfortable. Maybe it was just an accident of fate as to how PFO got started, but nonetheless, they seemed to be the ones who DID start it. I thought I was just giving due credit-I certainly don't consider them the saints of the Poser community-LOL. What I WOULD like to see is the whole thing go away. There seems to be a lot of animosity that many of us don't understand-that 'behind the scenes' thing again. I prefer the way Jack seems to be handling it 99% of the time-no references to any comments, etc. This site can stand on its own. Diane B