I suppose C and D mean complaint and debate. Can they still be viable people which have made some mistakes! However wrong? I think people often become upset when someone does something wrong. But this "You have fallen so low. I don't know you should really be saved for serious stuff. GREAT moral errors. Death, raping, killing, ect. " I 'm speaking from the point of view of a person who does not know what was done but guesses that it was not as serious to loos all respect for a person. I have two friends which have just started to talk again after 15 years because one left the other at a comic convention. Which was a real shame because they were the best of friends for the earlier 15 years of their life. I mean really....You were at a comic convention. But then again I would be ticked too. Bsteph