Okay, I tried this again, only this time, I first created Mike2, he is figure 1 and moved him over and back, then I created Vicky2, moved her to Mike2 left side, did the morphs and worked on it alot, for about an hour, tried to use only body morphing on each, first all the same dials, then different dials, nothing happened, so I don't know why and still have not seen this cross talking, I do not say it isn't there, it is just I can't see it. Sharen