Shadow: Way to think outside the box! However, I don't think that will work. Just based on my understanding of how the NL works. Rob? Rob: Thanks for the brief (but dense) lesson. It seems to me they (CL) are well aware of the headache this is causing many a user, and will surely fix it in Poser 5. You're right, using NL, exporting poses, etc. IS a step in the right direction, but dang-nabbit if it isn't frustrating. It just seems so silly, especially to those just looking at the problem on the surface. Thanks again! _Tim