Oh, flipping brilliant - not only did I feel bad about missing the deadline, now you guys insinuate I had a chance.....well, bloody thanks a lot for that one!!! lol - only kidding..... thanks for the comments guys! Just for info if your trying it, I used a bit of black A1 card (about 2' x 3' ish) about 8-10" behind the smoke, lit from the side by a desk lamp which I 'snooted out' with another bit of the same card rolled round the head of the lamp & stapled - so it was about 2' long. This was once again about 8-10" to the side of this smoke....thinking on this may have been 2 incense sticks together. Anyways, think it was 3 second exposure. Have fun! (",)