I wanna be in Xena's boat! I was lost like most of the rest of you when I first started looking into this whole thing... but Xena is right... it really isn't all that complicated when you get right down to it... and it's well worth knowing... if for no other reason than it simply demystifies Poser a bit... it really isn't magic... it just looks like it! I sat down over the course of a weekend and figured the whole thing out, much to Nan(nfredman)'s help, and Jaager's the information on Jaager's website. I will admit that I figured it out a bit backwards, but the end product is the same, and if you were to look at my file, next to Nan's or Jaager's or anyone else's for that matter, they look the same... what I'm getting at is this... there's more than one way to do pretty much anything... and it's true in this case as well... once you start looking at the text of a cr2, pz2, or fc2 file, you'll see they're almost identical, some just have more information than others... once you figure out one you can figure out any of the others.