Jack... told you were were like family. We're just as disfunctional, cost you money, give you grey hairs AND that nice warm feeling! Kinda like the one you get on Saturday mornings when you can't remember Friday night... As far as the other site: What they think means diddley witha good heap of squat. I checked their "Community" because their opening page suggests you got their first. I wouldn't send people I HATE there, much less people i want to give a good impression to. We may bash them, but we also give equal kicks to each other. They censor and start little subversive campaigns for no reason other than ego... And I have grown to HATE UBB! (Note these are MY opinions and anyone who doesn't like them can e-mail me.)