i'd say that's not a possibility clint because i don't have this problem except here(only the last few days)and at renderotica,ever since they reprogramed.i fly thru the gallery at 3d commune and i'm on a 56k connection.i think somone needs to check things out, the site hasn't been real stable for a month or longer now.i'm not complaining i'm trying to let sombody know what problems i'm finding so they hopefully don't get worse.there's been all kinds of wierd messages,slq errors,no new messages in forum(with forum not showing up),website not responding,and page not found.too many times to be just regular internet gliches.