I've had Poser 4 and patch working for 2 1/2 years, about as long as it has been out. The patch fixed a lot. And I too would like to see some fixes, improvements and new features. BUT, I have still not mastered all there is in this versatile program. Not all features are of primary interest to me, but I would like to be competent in all, if not a master. Besides posing and scene creation, there is Lighting, Animation and Walk Designer, Magnets for morphs, the incredibly versatile Sketch Render designer, and so on. Wow! that's a lot to get to know. And I don't even have the Pro-Pack. I'll wait til it's all in P5. So, I'm not in a hurry. I can wait for Poser 5. I am sure it will be as cool as P4 once was after P3.