"Collision detection will be in Poser 5", gee, are you sure? I'm not even sure if this could be done on a PC, except perhaps on the basic figure only. Thinking about conforming clothing, some of which will load already in collision, I don't think this is even do-able. I'm starting to think like rwilliams. If it comes out great, I'll buy it, but I'm not holding my breath. AS to being coded in India, the mind starts to boggle! ;-) "And it's Din, Din, Din, Gunga Din Your a better software coder (or at least a cheaper one) than I am, Gunga Din! When you heart is in your mouth and your debugger is going south Poser 5 may never come out- Gunga Din" Apoligies to Kipling!