On my old machine, my list of Poser Voodoo tricks would be way too long to list here.. mainly keeping eveyting at multiples of 256 for light settings (map size, or texture maps, save often, keep all fingers and toes crossed when about to render... and I could still crash 50% of the time :) But then I got my new machine, WinXp, 1.7 G processor, 1 Gig of ram.... no problems any more! I can render multiple V2's or M2's, fully loaded with props and hi-rez textures, etc. Havn't crashed yet! Now I am not saying that I still don't cross my fingers and toes before I render, but I am loosing the emotional need to do so ;) My main suggestion is to sacrifice as many ram chips you can to Mosca's poser gods (btw, you left out Run'tm Err-Or the God of Poser frustration -Trav