Sure very good point, my Traugs are Mushroom people, their other mounts are moles and rats, so a very large creature to them may not be much bigger than a large dog. "I'm not really good for cheerful.." hmmn You're certainly right that the expression and animation can do a lot, but so can the modelling. Remember I said I wanted to push you. I think you are better than you think you are... we'll see. Please don't worry if it can't be done, or if the idea is just plain silly. I specialise in those. And definitely don't worry about the time, this is supposed to be fun after all. If it stops being fun, stop. Don't let my wild ideas ruin it for you regards peejay