Yah, tedious is the word LOL. Thanks Jaager. This may help with my char. Thanks much. I release her to beta testers tonite, simply as a CR2 for now. Yah, I guess I didn't phrase that correctly about the settings of the Parameter dials. What I meant is that the values aren't visible to the user and they can still adjust the individual dials if they would like (of course taking some too far, as we know, has serious side effects). But having the FBM would allow them to retain the char. For example, if someone tweaked a chit load of params and the wished to get the char back to the way she should look (without reloading the cr2) the would just set all param values to zero and the named FBM to 1. The char would be back to her initial state and they wouldn't have to, possibly, redo a pose by loading the CR2 again. I like the sounds of your method using a pose file. Are there any good tuts out there on the technical aspects of doing that? Or perhaps you can point me to one of the free Characters and I can look through the file. Err these are for V2 though correct? Working with V1 at the moment. Thanks again your information has sparked a great number of ideas for future work on my char :). ---Keihan