Kieraw- Thanks again, I will ask in Community Ideas. Agreed on too much concern over code theft. Gave the owner benefit of the doubt, maybe she had a bad day, whatever, her loss, not mine, I didn't go back. Ron-Have a few of yours, thank you for the time invested in them. Your "Vicki texturing" is duct taped to the side of my graphics box, right next to jimball's guide to file placement. (Greatest Invention since fire, that duct tape)