Please don't take this the wrong way, Ron (and keep that Marlin guy at bay, willya ;o) ) ...BUT why on earth does everyone and his brother want to put their stuff in Adobe format? The Adobe format was never intended for the www and e-material in general. It's great for making stylish magazines like Vogue and the like, but for the www, it's simply a very fancy way to waste your time. Any tute can be written in html. It can be saved as html. It can be read in any browser and on any kind of machine in html. It can be printed from html. It can have pictures in html. It can look GREAT in html. You don't even have to KNOW html (take it from me, I don't - Frontpage Express is free, easy to use, and up to just about any challenge, if you give it the chance). So if you are generous enough to take time to share your knowledge with the community, why waste that time fiddling with a format totally unsuited to the task? Don't get me wrong, I love tutes - that's why I hate to think of all the tutes that are never written because the author spent so much time making his web material fit for print. Hope that's not Super Marlin in the horizon... ;o)